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Post by RobOats on Dec 16, 2008 5:37:06 GMT -5
Hi Cornishmaid; firstly thank you for the lookup offers, it is much appreciated and I promise not to unduly impose should this arise.
I believe there is some real progress here on these folk (gr-gr-gr-grandparents of mine). There is a burial of Martha OLDS 27 Feb 1827 aged 84 (http://west-penwith.org.uk/burbur5.htm really useful resources for those researching St Buryan) which makes her born 1743. This approximates to the detail for Martha TREMBATH. The fact that they named a child Martha, as you point out, is significant. I doubt there was a second marriage because the old guy died a few years later in 1833. I believe the Mary is actually Mary SEMMENS who married William the butcher. The IGI records this as submitted info so cannot comment on the source. There is about a 20 year age difference. Cannot find any recorded children for this couple.
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Post by cornishmaid on Dec 16, 2008 5:58:06 GMT -5
Not a problem at all with look-ups... any excuse to visit the Cornwall Centre is most welcome I think the possible second marriage of William referred to William and Martha's son William (the one who married Sabina Lanyon). I was getting myself all confused last night about these two Williams as well. Would seem a bit odd that William went from being a labourer to a butcher, but stranger things happen at sea
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Dec 16, 2008 5:58:19 GMT -5
All starting to look good Rob. The theory of a possible second marriage arose after viewing the 1841 Census - especially when Mary was so much older than William. But then I found the 1812 marriage of William to Mary which threw things a little haywire from my point of view. And the marriage of William OLDS of St Buryan to Mary SEMONS appears as the last entry in Phillimore for Sancreed.
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Post by RobOats on Dec 16, 2008 7:22:28 GMT -5
Thanks to both of you. There are more "co-incidences" that I tend to use to pinpoint actual lines in those far off times when we lack Census confirmation.
My gr-grandmother was Mary Ann OLDS (1850 - 1923) daughter of William OLDS and Charlotte LLEWELLIN (formerly LUGG and widowed 1848). Census records show William born 1819 which corresponds with a bapt record for a child of William and Sabina. Now this couple named their first daughter Martha as mentioned before and their last daughter Marianne.
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Post by RobOats on Dec 16, 2008 7:29:59 GMT -5
Regarding William and Mary SEMONS. There is an OLDS family in the St Buryan area that has a long line of butchers. I have seen records for Peter. I believe that this is the family that persists today and is related to Christine OLDS of the Butchery in Chapel Road, St Just. They also have links with my OATS family in that a son of Peter OLDS that started that business in the 1800's married Maria OATS, the daughter if the very famous Capt Francis OATS (1848 - 1919) of de Beers Consolidated Mines.
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Post by londoner on Dec 17, 2008 11:54:14 GMT -5
Oh yes - today the St Just business is "Vivian Olds" they do a good line in Xmas Turkeys!
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Post by RobOats on Oct 8, 2009 5:32:11 GMT -5
Newlyn I am looking for another marriage entry to try to identify parentage please;
John EDDY (b 1751) married Joan CASLEY, widow, (formerly WHITE b. 1743), 28 July 1781. Looking to see if the parents of John EDDY are named.
Thanks again, Rob
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Post by Mal on Oct 8, 2009 6:14:45 GMT -5
It's not really a Phillimore problem I now, but I may as well put it here. I am stuck with a marriage between William Davies and Mary Gendall/Kendall at Madron on 21st May 1826- a bit late for Philimores and a bit early for GRO/BMD!!! The only reference I have for this marriage is an IGI file, at least "confirmed" but I can't find any other records at all. The IGI record gives the source as
Cornwall parish registers, marriages, Madron, 1813-1837 Ridge, Cecil Harold, -1957 (Main Author)
Any ideas of where to go?
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 8, 2009 8:32:42 GMT -5
Rob - although it did happen it was quite unusual to find any parents named in marriage records back then.
From Phillimore the entry you want reads:-
John Eddy & Joan Casley 28 July 1781
It does not even allude to the possibility/fact that Joan was a widow.
CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Oct 8, 2009 8:38:23 GMT -5
Malcolm - IGI is the only place I have found the marriage.
You might try the OPC for Madron to see if they may be able to do a lookup for you.
CT
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Post by newlyn on Oct 8, 2009 13:10:33 GMT -5
Hi Malcolm
I have looked on a subscription site and can confirm that the marriage between William Davies and Mary Gendall took place on 21.5.1826 in Madron.
Is this all the info you wanted?
Newlyn
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Post by newlyn on Oct 8, 2009 13:28:08 GMT -5
Hi Rob
There was a John Eddy born 28.4.1751 Zennor to parents William Eddy and Mary Stevens who married 30.4.1750 Zennor.
Also John Eddy born 5.8.1749 St Just to parents John Eddy and Susanna.
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Post by RobOats on Oct 9, 2009 2:24:43 GMT -5
Many thanks for the lookup CT.
There is also a more relevant one that I was interested one in John EADY s/o of John and Jane bapt 8 Oct 1851, Sancreed
Yep and that is the reason I was trying to establish which one of the these it was through the marriage or banns.
Judging by the names of the children of this marriage I suspect that it may well be John of Sancreed.
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Post by Mal on Oct 9, 2009 8:15:40 GMT -5
Newlyn-
Thanks for the confirmation, I hoped that there may be some additional information, witnesses, banns, licence, which particular church or anything that might be able to add something to the information that I have.
I am now in the phase of going through the "established" tree with a fine-toothed comb trying to get as many details as possible.
Thanks for the help once again!
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