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Post by hollybenemily on Aug 15, 2007 2:06:17 GMT -5
Have just realized you have to pay also to check, so I will join myself, so please ignor all the above requests.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 15, 2007 13:24:09 GMT -5
Ladies - this is another note I will have to try to follow up on tomorrow. I note a couple of things here that I will need to investigate and I will do my best. As for the 1861 Williamstown connection. Will have a think about it and see what I can do. I think I mentioned in a note from yesterday that there was only on Tregerthen in the Pioneer Index for BDMs (at least that I found). Anyway, will see what I can do and will try to think of any contact I might have who might be able to help with the Williamstown problem.
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Post by hollybenemily on Aug 16, 2007 3:40:40 GMT -5
Hi everyone, have spent day cross checking the Family History on Line Cornwall, with IGI records and come up with the following: I have eliminated all other Sarah Tregerthens born by that name, by their deaths recorded on IGI with their births which made it easy. The Sarah Tregerthen born St Ives 1760 to John/Sarah Tregerthen was the one who married William Purchase in 1784, had one child in 1785, and she died Sarah Purchase in 1823 age 63. YES Exact correct age. So we know our Sarah Tregerthen did not marry again. Then I found a Sarah Tregerthen died St Ives 27/11/1780, now I had already found Anthony Tregerthen had died St Ives 31/3/1780. Looks like "Old Story in letter" correct with young ANthony Brn 1778 Cr 1781. Both Parents had died year before his christening. The old letter said he was three when orphaned. The site has been well worth paying for!! So now we have sorted out Grace Dying same year as Baby 1762, All about Sarah /Anthony now only have to tackle the hard part linking back to Possible Grandparents William Tregerthen and Mary Anthony.
Will be away next two days see you when we come home.
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Post by hollybenemily on Aug 17, 2007 1:16:27 GMT -5
Have established that the schooner "Ann" belong to Anthony Tregerthen son of Anthony brn 1778. This Capt Anthony Tregerthen lived in Wales. Found this on Welsh Morman History site.
I now shipped on board the schooner Ann of Newport, Captain Anthony Treegething of Llanelly, bound for Waterford Ireland. I made one voyage in her from Llanelly to Waterford and back to Bristol. I acted as mate on board of the Ann. I left the Ann in Bristol in consequence of her going for a long voyage, and that shee would not be back in time for me to emigrate with the Saints to the land of America, which was my intentions in the spring. As soon as I left the Ann, I shipped on board the Emely of Llanelly, Captain Thomas a regular Bristol trader .
I love the spelling of Tregerthen don't you, never pick that up with google search.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 23, 2007 10:47:26 GMT -5
This has been hard going but have worked through much of 'our' notes now and updated my database accordingly. (But with some queries attached.) Now - the 'deaths' of Anthony and Sarah Tregerthen in 1780 at St Ives - are these dates actually 'burial' dates Your theory regarding the possible parents of Anthony (c.1735) are interesting and I think I now have something to offer. Looking at your postings I have noted that the birth year of c.1735 is taken from the IGI recorded marriage date. It is well known that IGI people base the approximate birth of a groom as being 25 years prior to the marriage. (Very Arbitrary!). But you did mention the possibility of his parents being John and, possibly, Elizabeth. From Phillimore & Taylor Marriage records for St Ives:- John TREGARTHEN m. Elizabeth OATES 10th October 1723 Children I have recorded from IGI are:- Thomas bp. 24th December 1726 Thomasin bp. 29th June 1729 John bp. 10th September 1732 Margaret bp. 16th February 1734 Mary bp. 16th February 1735 Thomas bp. 8th October 1737 Anthony may have been over 25 when he married and there is plenty of room to fit him in this list between the marriage in 1723 and the baptism of Thomas in 1726. There are a couple of other smaller gaps in which to fit his birth/baptism but .... William TREGERTHEN and Mary ANTHONY had a son named JOHN bp. at St Ives 18th March 1690 (IGI) This 'might' well be the connection. It is now back to you whilst I try to catch up on the rest of the postings I have missed in the last/lost week.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 23, 2007 10:49:50 GMT -5
Forgot to mention:- From Phillimore & Taylor marriages at St Ives:- 28th February 1802 - John Stevens, y., of Lelant m. Elizabeth Tregarthen, lic. Is this what you were looking for.
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Post by hollybenemily on Aug 23, 2007 18:37:05 GMT -5
Hi again, Yes both Anthony and Sarahs date were from Familyhistoryonline. Cornwall BURIAL index. Agree the John Tregarthen m Elizabeth Oates 1723. family could fit , would be correct dates etc. Throw this in the pot: Two Sisters born in Stratton. To Richard and Martha Wallis. Sarah Wallis brn 18/7/1729 m John Tregerthen Stratton 4/5/1755 Sister Grace brn 2/10/1735 in Stratton, (Could this be our one that) m Anthony Tregerthen 1760 at St Ives. Stratton is long way from St Ives isnt't it? Two Brother marrying two sisters!! Leave that with you for now.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 24, 2007 11:07:18 GMT -5
Yes, Stratton is quite some distance from St Ives but I agree about the possibility of sisters Sarah and Grace Wallis being 'possibly' involved. It is a pity that I can find no trace of a baptism for Anthony Tregerthen as I think that might solve a few problems. One problem we do have here is that STRATTON is a Hundred and not just a Parish or Village. This means that the events could have occurred anywhere within that Hundred. We do not know enough at the moment to be sure of anything so will have to keep working on it.
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Post by johntitford on Feb 10, 2011 8:10:03 GMT -5
Hi, all you Tregrethen researchers! You might be interested in an original marriage licence I have for the marriage of Anthoney (sic) Tregethen (sic) to Mary David Thomas of Margam, Glamorgan, 9 July 1805? With a few pencil notes added about their daughter "Mrs Collier". Good condition, UKĀ£35 + Postage from the UK if you are interested, How nice it would be if it were to find a good home... Good luck! John Titford
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