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Post by nickbuckingham on Jul 4, 2015 3:58:39 GMT -5
Hi all, I'm a newbie here, so please treat me gently 
Thomas Leddra born in St Ives is my 6th Great Grandfather and I was wondering if anybody can confirm the name of his wife Honor. I have seen references to a Honor Hambly but as yet cannot find any source information. I would be extremely grateful for any help.
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Post by white on Jul 4, 2015 6:25:49 GMT -5
Burial at St.Ives 11th apr 1770, but no marriage found
White
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Post by nickbuckingham on Jul 4, 2015 6:50:33 GMT -5
Thank you White for your kind reply.
I have doubted the 'Hambly connection' although not dismissed it.
The Honor Hambly in question was the daughter of Emmanuel Hambly and Jane Morrish and looking at the children of Thomas Leddra and Honor, I would imagine to see at least one of them named after their mothers parents as the first two born, Mary and George are clearly named after Thomas's parents.
Maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree with the naming conventions but these things do often lead to clues when nothing else is available.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Jul 5, 2015 15:34:39 GMT -5
Hi Nick and Welcome to Penwith Genealogy.
I have it in my database that Thomas Leddra/Luddra's wife was most likely Honor Hambly. I have also been unable to find a marriage record and I have no other sources noted. Honor Hambly's brother William is almost certainly the man who married Mary Quick (daughter of John Quick and Jane Morrish) but that marriage has also not been found. John Quick named his daughter Mary Hambly in his Will proved 1733 and one of the witnesses to that Will was a William Hambly.
John Quick also named a daughter Jane Hambly with that marriage being to John Hambly at St Ives in 1703. John Hambly I believe was probably baptized at St Ives in 1683 to Henry Hambly and his wife Barbay Morish.
Without some sort of written evidence my conclusion can only be classed as guesswork but it seems I was confident enough at the time I worked on that family to add the link in my database. Should I find evidence to the contrary then I would certainly make adjustments but for now that is how I see it.
CT
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Post by nickbuckingham on Jul 6, 2015 14:08:52 GMT -5
Hi CT
Thank you so much for the information
My line to Thomas is as follows
Thomas Leddra (1689 - 1741)
Richard Leddra (1726 - 1811)
James Leddra (1766 - 1839)
Charles Leddra (1795 - 1852)
Sarah Leddra (1837 - )
Sarah Ann Ellis (1869 - 1920)
Winifred Anne Pleasants (1903 – 1963
Ivan Buckingham (1930 - 2008)
Nick Buckingham (1963 - )
I study the medieval period on a different subject and have tried to find early Leddra's /Luddra's etc in land charters, but nothing as yet, although I do have a theory that the surname is from a Norman nickname. Before naming conventions became more common in the 12th c, the Normans were very good at giving nicknames based on appearances, Gibbard (Moon Face), Crispin (Spikey Hair) etc etc. My theory is, and only a theory, is that the Old Saxon word for udder which was adopted into the Norman French language was Uddre, and I can easily see based on Norman French that although disrespectful L'Uddre (The Udder) would be a typical Norman nickname.
Has anyone else studied the early Leddra's?
Nick
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