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Post by tenpoundpom on Aug 3, 2014 5:08:19 GMT -5
I thought I was doing relatively well working out the children of William Trewhella (1832-1904) and Martha Warren (1833-1898). Then I came across Eliza Jane!
I found eight children.
1. William Thomas (1855) who dies in the shipwreck of the Cospatrick in 1874 2. Martha Ellen (1857-1923). Marries John Charles Davey. 13 children, 11 identifed 3. Joshiah John (1859-1859) 4. Mary Honour (1860-1861) 5. John (1863-1864) 6. Samuel Warren (1864-1932). Marries Mary Phillips Tonkin. 5 children, all identified (thanks to Londoner!) 7. Ada (1866-1891). Never married. 8. Eliza Jane (1867-?)
Eliza Jane marries Sidney Henry Coles in 1892. They have no children. They divorce in 1904. At the time Eliza is living in Somerset, and Sidney in St Just. Sidney dies later that year in Colchester and the administration of his estate is given to his father.
I cannot determine what became of Eliza Jane. She was known as "Janie". If her fate is known, then I'd be happy to know of it. If not I'll explore it from time to time!
Simon
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 3, 2014 8:53:30 GMT -5
Simon - I have not looked at Eliza Jane's record since about 2010 when I updated the marriage information. I was aware that there were no children but I did not know about the Divorce.
Unfortunately I have not found 'Janie' after 1901 either but I will try and check further to see if I can find her somewhere. I would also appreciate copies/details of anything you have regarding the divorce if possible.
The only thing I can find that is remotely close is a death for an Eliza Jane Coles in the Bridgwater R.D., Somerset in 1908 but she was age 52 which, unless there is an error, is about 11 years two old.
CT
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Post by tenpoundpom on Aug 3, 2014 17:16:15 GMT -5
Simon - I have not looked at Eliza Jane's record since about 2010 when I updated the marriage information. I was aware that there were no children but I did not know about the Divorce. Unfortunately I have not found 'Janie' after 1901 either but I will try and check further to see if I can find her somewhere. I would also appreciate copies/details of anything you have regarding the divorce if possible. The only thing I can find that is remotely close is a death for an Eliza Jane Coles in the Bridgwater R.D., Somerset in 1908 but she was age 52 which, unless there is an error, is about 11 years two old. CT The divorce papers are on Ancestry. There are about 20 images or so. Its in the England & Wales Civil Divorce Records 1858-1911 collection. Search on husband's name. I didn't try to search on Eliza Jane. Name: Sidney Henry Coles Gender: Male Spouse Name: Eliza Jane Coles Spouse Gender: Female Petition Year: 1903 Type of Record: Wife's petition Divorce Court File Number: 3707 I extracted some of the information of relevance for my records. Information from the divorce record of Eliza Jane Coles & Sidney Henry Coles Petition Filed 3 March 1903 Setting Down Cause 28 May 1903 Final Decree RCR 11th May 1904 Order of Alimony payment to Eliza Jane Coles by Sidney Henry Coles 6th March 1903 15/- per week. Address of Eliza Jane Coles on 30 January 1903 25 Portland Street, Taunton, Somerset Address of Sidney Coles on 30 January 1903 Commercial Hotel, St Just, Cornwall There is a copy of a letter written by Eliza Jane to Sidney on 30 January 1903. She signs it “Janie”, and addresses him as “Sid” The petition to the court by Eliza Jane Coles states that Eliza Jane Trewhella was married to Sidney Henry Coles at Sennen on 10 October 1892. It further states that there has been no issue of the marriage. It states that Sidney Henry Coles refuses to live with her. A copy of the marriage certificate is provided. The response to the petition by Sidney Henry Coles states that Eliza Jane Coles has frequently committed adultery with Charles Daniel, and specifically on or about 24 March 1902 at the Commercial Hotel Saint Just, Cornwall. A reply by Eliza Jane Coles, through her solicitors, dated 15 April 1903 states that she was not at the Commercial Hotel, and that she has never committed adultery with Charles Daniel. Hope that's useful edit added - There is a Eliza Jane Trewhella who marries in Camberwell in 4th Q 1907. Maybe our girl if she used her maiden name following divorce? Alas no, it is a different Eliza Jane Trewhella. This one was born abt 1883 in Battersea London and marries Percy James Williams. Found in 1911 census at Camberwell. Simon
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Post by londoner on Aug 4, 2014 4:13:40 GMT -5
In case anyone is looking for a connection, Sidney had a sister Ada Hannah (1873-1926) who married Samuel, son of Thomas Woolcock and Honor Wallis, at St Just 6 Feb 1904
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Post by londoner on Aug 4, 2014 4:59:12 GMT -5
Sidney died as you said, less than a year after the divorce, 9 dec 1904, in Colchester.
Edit because already mentioned!
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 4, 2014 6:18:11 GMT -5
Thanks Simon - 23 pages to be exact which I now have saved with my other information. Eliza Jane daughter of Thomas and Jane (nee Barnard) Trewhella baptized 13th February 1883 St Mary's, Battersea, London (born 28th January 1883 at Battersea) Thomas Trewhella was baptized at St Erth 6th October 1835 to Thomas and Mary (nee Potter) Trewhella. He was first married to Emma Herbert at St Luke, Chelsea 25th December 1859 and had five children with her before she died in 1874. Jane Barnard was first married to Charles Cramp in 1861 and had four known children before she was widowed in 1874. She had three children with Thomas Trewhella AFTER the marriage however she and Thomas did leave a mystery for me to solve! I have a marriage certificate for a John Trewhella who married Mary Ann Maria Wheeler at Springfield Hall Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Lambeth 15th April 1911. I could never find where John belonged and searched for years until one day I stumbled on a birth record for John Trewhela CRAMP at Battersea in 1875! Londoner - thanks for the additional input, every little bit helps to build the big picture. CT
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Post by zibetha on Aug 5, 2014 23:47:06 GMT -5
Another family link-- in 1901 Census, Eliza Jane (Trewhella) and Sidney Coles have a family servant, Eva Jane Harvey, in their household. She was a sister of Beatrice Harvey who married William John Davey, son of Eliza Jane's sister, Martha Ellen Trewhella and husband, John Charles Davey.
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 6, 2014 5:04:11 GMT -5
Well Zib - now that you have added this Harvey family to the mix I certainly hope you are able to elaborate! Because as this forms part of the Trewhella clan (by association) I decided to add a bit more detail ........... and immediately became a 'victim of soycumstans'! I have established that Beatrice Harvey was baptized at St Just 28th July 1886 to William and Elizabeth Ann Harvey of New Downs and that she had a number of siblings. The children, in order, are as follows:- Mary Annie daughter of William and Elizabeth Ann Harvey of New Downs baptized 8th November 1882 St Just Eva Jane daughter of William and Elizabeth Ann Harvey of New Downs baptized 30th April 1884 St Just Beatrice daughter of William and Elizabeth Anne Harvey of New Downs baptized 28th July 1886 St Just William son of William and Elizabeth Ann Harvey of Bosorne Lane baptized 6th July 1887 St Just Francis son of William and Elizabeth Ann Harvey of New Downs baptized 22nd April 1891 St Just James son of William and Elizabeth Ann Harvey of Bosorne Road baptized 8th February 1893 St Just The problems I have encountered are these:- 1. William Harvey does not appear in the 1891 or 1901 Census with the family so I am unable to identify him 2. Neither William nor Elizabeth Ann appear in the 1911 Census 3. Francis appears in the 1891 Census but by 1901 he has become Ernest (birth registered as Francis) 4. In 1911 Annie (Mary Annie) and 'Ernest' are living at Bosorne Road, New Downs. Initially recorded as 'daughter' and 'son' but Annie altered to 'head'. 5. I can find just one marriage in FreeBMD that comes close to a match but it was in the June Qtr of 1883 which is at least six months AFTER the baptism of Mary Annie. The potential bride was Elizabeth Ann Veale. Can you tell me exactly who William and Elizabeth Ann were with details of the date and place of marriage? CT
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Post by londoner on Aug 6, 2014 5:48:55 GMT -5
5. I can find just one marriage in FreeBMD that comes close to a match but it was in the June Qtr of 1883 which is at least six months AFTER the baptism of Mary Annie. The potential bride was Elizabeth Ann Veale. CT This William and Elizabeth Ann can be found I n 1891 at Paul, with children John T and William, and mother in law Elizabeth Veal. ancestry has them as Henry with a correction to Harvey RG12; Piece: 1858; Folio: 78; Page: 24;
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Post by londoner on Aug 6, 2014 5:55:15 GMT -5
Did you notice that in 1901 Elizabeth and the children are with widowed mother Mary A Harvey b 1831, Sennen? Might help to identify William. How about HO107; Piece: 1919; Folio: 459; Page: 12; At St Leven in 1851 Henry Harvey, 22 Mary A Harvey 20 William H Harvey, 3 months
However in 1891 Mary Ann is recorded as Barns? So need to check if she married twice or if it is just a mis interpretation? Ah ha Mary Ann wife of Henry was dead buried 19 Feb 1871 so it can't be her in the later censuses . Must be Elizabeth Ann's mother. More checking to do!
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Post by londoner on Aug 6, 2014 5:57:10 GMT -5
And this would then be him in 1901 (RG13; Piece: 2252; Folio: 117; Page: 20.) Married but working away from home as a ploughman
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Post by londoner on Aug 6, 2014 6:00:33 GMT -5
And William and Elizabeth's son Francis was named for his maternal grandfather Francis Wallis(h)
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Post by londoner on Aug 6, 2014 6:14:04 GMT -5
Perhaps the apr-jun 1882 marriage of Henry Harvey to either Elizabeth Maddern or Elizabeth Ann Rowe is the one we need? Penzance 5c, 399
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Post by londoner on Aug 6, 2014 6:30:15 GMT -5
It looks like Elizabeth Ann Rowe was the daughter of Ezekiel and Elizabeth bap 1863 St Just Wesleyan, circumstantial evidence but in the later censuse she and the children are living at Queen St, Bosorne, St Just, the same location as she is with parents in 1871 If this is the wife of William Henry then who is the Mary Ann Barns/Harvey who is allegedly her mother? I seem to be creating more problems thanI am solving!
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Post by londoner on Aug 6, 2014 7:07:19 GMT -5
Burial 18 Oct 1909 of Elizabeth Ann Harvey age 48 of Bosorne Rd would tally with the children that CT without her in 1911 and wit the 1911 entry for widowed William Henry at Buryan (RG14; Piece: 14099; Schedule Number: 6.) Ag Lab lodging with a Semmens family.
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