pmac
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Post by pmac on Aug 4, 2010 11:48:56 GMT -5
Certainly got a bag of strings to unravel with this one Have also searched for a burial of Sarah, no luck so far, we know William died pre 1788 and she did not remarry before the will was written making her 73 at least, doubtful she would have remarried that late, or dare I say lived much longer either. Neice Mary Williams is a quandry indeed, but I rule out dau of Gabriel or she would not be neice. She'd be called G/dau of Richard, as he stated with John Hill..Sibella's a new one, there is a gap in the children of John and Sarah between,Elizabeth 1721 and Margaret 1729 so maybe room for 1 or 2? or a Mary (see ps) Zach and John sons of Richard not sure where they fit either but there is no immediate relation status mentioned. My foul up with the aunt Margaret Curnow part, it actually says Svnt (servant) can't read my own d**n writing. I agree on the Ann being John jnr's dau. 'tis logical. Nice find on the Hill/Harris info, miles ahead of me there. ps.Don't forget Mary was the name of John James's mother
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Post by pmac on Aug 4, 2010 12:00:27 GMT -5
Sarah Ede appears to have been bptzd Towednack 16 Sep 1683 to father Vincent; Vincent buried Towednack 5 Sep 1683.
Yep that seems to fit Sue.. and as Vincent died before bapt, she wouldn't have known him hence no children named after him, got me wondering who the Mother is? can't find an Ede/Eddy marriage till an Elizabeth marries in 10 Aug 1792 to....James Harry. An Elizabeth does feature in 3 generations of the family. But would she have waited 9 years to remarry?
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Post by sue on Aug 4, 2010 12:42:49 GMT -5
Well, the Margery who married William Curnow 1777 Towednack, her previous husband William Eddy looks like he died in 1766, I think (3 to choose from in the years between her 2 marriages of 1764 & 1777 in Zennor, all in the same year!) which would be an 11 year gap....
Sue
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 4, 2010 20:43:08 GMT -5
Pmac - when it comes to the term 'niece' or 'nephew' (or Aunt and Uncle for that matter) don't be caught up in the modern day usage of the words.
In old Wills the term often refers to a grand-niece or great-niece etc and it is so in this case.
I have seen the term 'Aunt' used for a great-aunt.
The way young John Hill was mentioned was much more specific and perhaps also reflects on the fact that his mother had remarried.
CT
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 4, 2010 21:10:13 GMT -5
A couple of odd bits just for interest. In 1641 and 1662/4 there was Richard James was the only one of that family at Towednack as recorded on the Protestation Return and the Hearth Tax. The only member of the Ede family seems to have been Teage Ede. And then there is this burial at Towednack:- Gabriel Ede alias Teage buried 27th August 1699 Perhaps the origins of the name Gabriel in the James family? CT
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Post by sue on Aug 15, 2010 5:41:02 GMT -5
I just thought I'd note here (so I can maybe pick up on this thread again in the future) that I think this burial is of the Sibella James mother of the sister-in-law-to-be of Margery(Eddy/Richards) Curnow. As in, Sibella Row married Andrew James St Just 1/1/1724, went on to have c 9 children there including - probably youngest - Mary James b 1744 St Just (PR just sighted naming both parents), who married James Bolitho and their 2x daughters married 2 x sons of Margery Curnow 1799 & 1811. BUT this in no way makes for a connection for Margery Curnow to Thomas James to justify inclusion in Thomas James' 1788 Towednack will. Just explaining my understanding of who the Sibella James widow burial in St Just of 1782 is. Sue
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Post by Cornish Terrier on Aug 16, 2010 0:23:59 GMT -5
Sue - as far as I am aware from information provided to me several years ago this 1782 burial is that of the widow of Andrew James who is possibly the one buried at St Just in 1769.
For our James family of Towednack I show the following:-
Richard James buried 7th May 1769 Towednack Sibella James buried 28th February 1779 Towednack
CT
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Post by sue on Aug 16, 2010 2:51:50 GMT -5
Sorry, I didn't explain myself well! I have now modified my post to, I hope, clarify - I have at last cracked the quotes box!!.
I think we are saying the same thing about the identity of Sibella James buried St Just 1782, as in: widow of Andrew James of St Just.
I probably didn't make it sufficiently clear that I haven't found a link for Andrew James of St Just's family, to the Towednack James family - which would indeed be a long way back in time if at all, as you indicated elsewhere.
Sue
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